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ITPG Meeting Minutes November 20, 1998

 

Present: Art Battson, Glenn Davis, Doug Denison, Bill Doering, George Gregg, Bill Koseluk, Tom Marazita, Bill McTague, Elise Meyer, Alan Moses, Joan Murdoch, Larry Murdock, Jamie Sonsini, Bob Sugar, Pamela Webb

Not Present: Debbie Anglin, Kevin Barron, Ken Bowers, Phil Handley, Sonia Johnston, Pam Lombardo, Ed Mehlschau, Kevin Schmidt, Vince Sefcik, John Vasi

A quorum was present.

Bob Sugar presented the really big news that an anonymous (and generous) donor has provided funding that might be used for refreshments at future ITB and ITPG meetings!

Bob also reviewed the formation of the Information Technology Board (ITB). The board consists of senior administrators and faculty with staff and student representation. The co-chairs of ITPG will attend in an ex officio capacity. Bob noted that there would be significant interaction between ITB and ITPG with at least four people providing liaison between the groups. Bob indicated that the ITB would discuss broad issues of policy on matters such as student access to IT resources and noted that ITPG data gathering and discussions would be crucial support for the ITB. Both groups might do priority setting with ITPG providing details to be forwarded to ITB for approval. The need for a full-time coordinator is likely to emerge as the ITPG and ITB conduct business.

Bob suggested that the CNC is now redundant to ITB/ITPG and that we might ask the EVC to dissolve CNC and move the BEG, CalREN-2 and new Security and Directory/Authentication subcommittees to ITPG.

In response to the question of whether there would be faculty representation on ITPG, Bob indicated that would be possible although not a necessity. In his view, faculty would serve the role of making high-level policy decisions on the ITB. The trade-offs for not having the joint faculty-staff discussions characteristic of CNC are the involvement of senior administrators and the increase in the total number of participants.

In response to the question of how recommendations might flow, Bob noted that in the past requests flowed from subcommittees to CNC to the EVC. Now they might flow from subcommittees to ITPG and then to either the EVC or the ITB, depending on the level of funding requested or the policy implications of the project. The ITB would advise both the Chancellor and the EVC, at least initially. Bob noted that committees are usually advisory while funding goes to an individual for operational management.

Bob noted that there would be at least one more CNC meeting at which these issues would be discussed.

Elise then returned the discussion to the issue of Student Access and reminded the group of the dimensions discussed at the previous ITPG meeting: On/Off campus, 3-tiers of service, open/restricted facilities, etc. Elise asked if there were significant revisions to the discussion or notes from the last meeting and, there were none. We then launched the discussion by noting that a UC-wide report compiled by Stuart Lynn at UCOP indicates that the current average ratio of students to workstations of all types is about 14 to 1 and that an appropriate target might be closer to 9 to 1. These ratios imply that UCSB would currently have 1350 workstation of all types and that our target might be something like 2111. (Stuart's tables have now been sent to all participants in ITPG.) The group agreed that the UC-wide report is only a guidepost and we need to create definitions and targets suitable for UCSB.

Bill Koseluk distributed an update of the Appendices to the Open Access paper which show that there are about 602 workstations available in open access labs, Instructional Computing and Letters & Science. Bill noted some of the differences between access to open and reserved labs and indicated that actual usage ran something like 35-40% of space reserved (IC now overbooks to keep labs operating at capacity).

After some discussion of existing types of labs and rules of access we agreed to request information from all ITPG participants regarding facilities in the units they represent. All those from units who provide workstation access of any type to students will gather data and send it to Bill Koseluk. Bill will compile and distribute the results, probably as an Excel spreadsheet. The following information is requested:

  1. Number of seats – existing plus those with funding committed
  2. Platforms supported (by tier)
  3. Current age of systems
  4. Predicted total life span of systems
  5. Proposed upgrades to platforms
  6. Access restrictions:
    1. Hours of operation
    2. Graduate vs.undergraduate
    3. Percent of timefacility is reserved
  7. Services provided – special software, etc.
  8. Audience served

There was a short discussion of how site-licensed software might be better managed on student access machines ("floating keys"). The degree to which software is currently switched on and off of existing lab workstations as required by classes in session surprised some.

It is our hope to use the information gathered to define the current state of student access. Then we can estimate the gap between what is available now and what would be necessary to permit instructors to make various assumptions about the technology available to their classes. ITPG might present a "buffet" of choices with associated costs from which ITB could make informed policy and priority decisions.

It was noted, however, that present levels of funding are not adequate to replace existing seats as they age into obsolescence - we can't expect seats to remain useful without planning for periodic upgrades.

Student Affairs folks noted that GOLD tracks IP addresses accessing its pages as does the Events Calendar. Perhaps a future count of different IP addresses could be used to estimate the number of workstations in service to students. A survey of student computer ownership might also be included in an initial GOLD screen under the assumption that most students will find it useful or necessary to access GOLD at some point.

We agreed to meet again on December 18, at 10:00 a.m. in North Hall 1131. This will follow the first ITB meeting which has been scheduled for December 8.

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