Present: Rob Bootsma, Nathan Freitas, Elise Meyer, Larry Murdock, Stephen Pope, Rich Prohaska, Kevin Schmidt, Jason Simpson
Music's ATM Connection Needs
We discussed Music's ATM needs. Stephen Pope thought that connecting Music directly to the LS1010 was a good idea since it didn't require any expense be paid out of the C2IG budget for ATM support since a) Music was the only group interested in ATM, and b) Music doesn't know if they will even have the funding for their ATM project.
Latest Design
We discussed the latest design based on information available on possible
Rexs and Rins.
PUBLIC SAFETY would house the CENIC Cisco Lightstream 1010, the Rex (a
Cisco 12008 (GSR)), and SBGTY, the UCOP router connecting the campus FDDI
network to UCNET.
CENIC Cisco Lightstream 1010 (LS1010) comes with:
- 1 OC-12 ATM (SMF) interface to connect to Qwest
- 1 OC-12 ATM (MMF) interface to connect to Rex
- 4 OC-3 ATM (MMF) interfaces:
- 1 interface would provide Music's ATM connection
- 1 interface could provide the FDDI campus backbone connection to CalREN-2 when UCNET merges with C2 (est. 1/1/99).
These OC-3 interfaces are available for campus allocation and that PVCs could be set up on them through a central campus coordination point. The limiting factors for whether these could be used for research group connections are distance and db loss. It is 1600' from Public Safety to North Hall, and the MMF distance limit for OC-3 is 2km (?)
Rex (Cisco 12008 GSR) comes with:
- 1 OC-12 ATM (MMF) interface to connect to LS1010
- 1 OC-12 ATM (SMF) interface to connect to NH Switch
The external routing functionality it currently provides is:
The external routing functionality it doesn't yet provide is:
- Filtering/Access Lists
- 802.1Q VLANs
- Gigabit Ethernet
We don't know if it provides (who can find this out?):
- RMON/RMON2
- port mirroring or call tapping
- DVMRP or PIM (or both)
We don't think it will ever provide (but we really wish it did):
The LS1010 and GSR 1200x combination is being used at many of the other
CalREN-2 sites, so any inter-campus solutions developed by the TAC should work
for UCSB.
SBGTY currently connects the campus FDDI to the UCNET SMDS network.
When UCNET is converted over to CalREN-2, SBGTY needs to plug into
the UCSB-C2 infrastructure somewhere, and the options are:
- Purchase an OC-3 ATM (MMF) interface for sbgty (PA-A1-OC3MM @ $3,600 plus tax) and plug into one of the existing LS1010 OC-3 ATM (MMF) interfaces.
- Purchase an OC-3 ATM (MMF) interface for sbgty (PA-A1-OC3MM @ $3,600 plus tax) and purchase a 4 port OC-3 ATM (MMF) card (4 OC3/ATM-MM-SC @ $22,200 plus tax) for Rex.
- Purchase a FDDI interface for the North Hall Switch (List price $7,685 with estimated UCSB price @ $4,611 plus tax)
- If the GSR did support Fast Ethernet, then you could purchase a FDDI to Fast Ethernet Translational Bridge ($?) and a Fast Ethernet Line Card for the GSR ($?).
NORTH HALL would contain a switch (FSB) and could also contain an SSR-8 (Rin).
The FSB would come with:
- 1 OC-12 ATM (SMF) interface would connect to Rex.
- 1 Gigabit Ethernet interface would connect to Rin.
- 16 10/100 Category 5 RJ-45 UTP ports to connect to research group routers or switches.
The carrier module card that contains the OC-12 ATM (SMF) interface is where the switch maps 802.1Q VLANs into PVCs in such a way that
upstream routers can route the IP data.
????? What are the part numbers, prices, and ship dates of the carrier module and the OC-12 interface ?????
The FSB could also provide OC-3 ATM (MMF) interfaces if there was growth of more than 3 research group ATM connections. It could also provide an FDDI connection for the FDDI backbone.
SSR-8 (Rin) would come with:
- 1 Gigabit Ethernet interface which would connect to FSB.
This Rin would act as a one-arm router to route between the 802.1Q VLANs.
Please see the description of the Engineering I SSR-16 for supported routing features.
The current recommendation is to not purchase a North Hall Rin unless it is necessary and to instead rely on the Engineering I Rin/Switch for internal routing capabilities.
ENGINEERING I would contain an SSR-16 (Rin/Switch) and could also contain
a switch (FSB).
SSR-16 (Rin/Switch) would come with:
- 1 Gigabit Ethernet interface to connect with the North Hall FSB.
- 16 10/100 Category 5 RJ-45 UTP ports to connect to research group routers or switches.
This Rin would route between the 802.1Q VLANs.
The internal routing functionality it currently provides is:
- Gigabit Ethernet
- Fast Ethernet
- RIP
- OSPF
- 802.1Q VLANs
- DVMRP
- IP routing
- IPX routing
The internal routing functionality it doesn't yet provide is:
- RMON/RMON2
- (BGP - actually an external routing feature)
- GVRP
Kevin Schmidt is in the process of testing to see if it supports
any of the following:
- Filtering/Access Lists
- port mirroring or call tapping
- PIM
There are no plans for it to ever provide the following:
- OC-12
- OC-3 ATM
- Appletalk routing
Our understanding is that equipment is being Beta tested by Kevin on behalf of the campus and that once the 2 month Beta test is completed the equipment will become the property of UCSB. We discussed that we should have this arrangement formalized and documented so that we know the true situation. It was also requested that we find out how much the annual software & hardware support costs would be for this equipment.
The FSB would come with:
GROWTH PATHS
What's Next?
- Determine where we stand regarding our "final" design and the RFP.
- Report on our design to BEG for review and approval.
- Send Vince a parts list.
- Begin discussion of our recommendations for the installation, operation and maintanance of this network.
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